Looking for advice on cycle running soon

[John]

Welcome. Why deca n winny, kinda gonna be competing against each other,doin the opposite things. And your pct was only nolva, no clomid?

 

[RunNGun]

I say I’m notice as I’ve e only ran 3 cycles. 2 cycles were just test e for 12 weeks at 500mg and the other was test e for 12 weeks at 500mg and anavar. All cycles I took aromasin EOD 12.5mg and just ended the cycle with the normal nolvadex recommendations.

I’m looking to cycle test/deca/stanozolol and complete a 16 week cycle. Can y’all please give your feedback as to how I should cycle this. I went to Reddit and got a lot of mixed up recommendations and so now I’m just going to ask the pros. I didn’t have any issues with any of my cycles in the past besides my nuts shrinking while I was on. Also, how can I prevent that from happening?

I also have 2 vials of HCG sitting at home I got for my TRT so I would like to incorporate that into my cycle as well. I am also open to suggestions based off my goals and background below.

My goal for the next cycle is to clean up what I eat and go into a calorie deficit to help cut down the BF. If I had to guess I’m probably around 20-22% but would love to get down to 13-15% and maintain that.

I am also 5’7 and weigh 173-176 depending on the day.

 

[Bigmurph6]

Gotcha straightened out brother advice here introduction there @RunNGun

 

[PNWmuscle]

Do you PCT after cycle or blast and cruise?

 

[Bigmurph6]

All cycles I took aromasin EOD 12.5mg

That’s alot of aromasin do you get blood work done? Whats your normal e2 levels on cycle at that dose?

test/deca/stanozolol

If this is what you’re running no matter what it would be for me

Test e 500mg
Decca 300mg
Winny last 8wks don’t know what mg I would use because honestly I wouldn’t run this cycle

Alright what are your goals?
I will write a detailed post about how to run the cycle above but I would really like to reccomend different compounds unless you must run that cycle.

Also the hcg you would run 500iu split for 10wks right up until pct to keep your testicles full but there’s much more information I can provide I just need to know your goals that you want from this cycle and if the compounds above have to be what you use?

 

[Bigmurph6]

My goal for the next cycle is to clean up what I eat and go into a calorie deficit to help cut down the BF. If I had to guess I’m probably around 20-22% but would love to get down to 13-15% and maintain that.

With this goal that’s absolutely the wrong cycle to run to cut down you would be much better off with npp or even not using nandrolone and just using testosterone again but cutting calories into a deficit possibly using var or tbol as an oral I would also say possibly proviron or drostanolone propionate

I would also drop calories now and start the diet to prep and get bf below 20% definitely so that you can really get the most out of your cycle especially cutting in a deficit

 

[Dirtnasty]

I would switch to eq instead of deca cut

 

[Poppy]

You’re on trt?

 

[Poppy]

You can drop all kinds of bf with a few small tweaks to your diet prior to your cycle.

 

[RunNGun]

Well “TRT” i should say. Found a sport clinic so I can get a prescription of test c and they prescribed it even though I was at 380ish ng/ml.

 

[RunNGun]

I’ve always used a PCT. I’ve done 3 cycles in 4 years so it’s pretty far spread out.

 

[Dirtnasty]

I mean that’s not optimal

 

[PNWmuscle]

If you’re set on pct, I would avoid deca. Deca stays in your system a long time so you’d have to cruise on TRT level test for a while before pct’ing. Sometimes over a year. Maybe NPP would be a better for if you’re dead set on nandrolone

 

[RunNGun]

I’m not dead set on anything. I’m open to suggestions. Y’all obviously know more than me so if you have a better cycle recommendation I’m I’d love to hear it.

 

[Bigmurph6]

10-12wks
Testosterone e 500mgs split 250mg/ml 2x a wk
Tbol 50mg a day split 25mg 2x ed first 6wks
Drostanolone propionate 200mg-400mg a wk or proviron 50mg split 25mg 2x a day

This cycle plus a calorie deficit diet will lead to lean muscle mass gains and noticeable strength gains without shutting down your system for an extended period of time and possibly not needing an AI because only the testosterone aromatase

 

[RunNGun]

To answer your questions John, I’ve never gotten bloodwork done to be honest except when I went for my “TRT” but even then I don’t know anything outside of test levels. I’m definitely going to check my blood before and during my next cycle.

Before I came here all I knew was Reddit and according to Reddit deca is fantastic so I came here with that thinking it really is but everyone here seems to not like deca at all so I’m starting to think I’m going to rule deca out, especially after reading what others are saying about it.

I’ve always only ran nolva but again that’s a rookie mistake on my part especially without bloodwork. I did seem fine tbh with only that. Also I felt fine on aromasin at 12.5mg EOD - every 3rd day.

 

[Bigmurph6]

I actually love nandrolone brother but for your goals other compounds are just better

 

[Poppy]

Deca and dbol…d&d was the old school stuff. It’s a wonder I aint dead.

 

[John]

Ok gotcha, I love deca, not winny though,and they do the opposite things to an extent, that’s why I asked

 

[PNWmuscle]

I lot of guys here like deca, just if you plan on pct it isn’t the best. But deca is nandrolone, just a long ester. NPP is nandrolone as well but is a short ester that may be better if you want to PCT.