Sust and Enth peak and trough

[NeuroRN]

https://medium.com/@energyfirst/cre...eroid-protocol-beyond-blood-work-6c9b79a7f9bc

Not clear where the program he uses is getting their half life numbers etc, but it’s still and interesting read. Crazy how big the projected difference between peak and trough can be.

Almost makes me want to find the cheapest at home test level kit and test levels on long Ester twice a week Pins.

I’ve also read Sust can wreak havoc on estro bc of the different rates of aromatization. On the other hand, @Optumpharma told me about a study where the use of sust with a long Ester decreased the need for an AI.

Sust is just a mystery to Me.

 

[John]

That sounds interesting

 

[NeuroRN]

I couldn’t get the program to load on my phone but it looks intriguing.

 

[John]

Hey @Optumpharma where’s the study I’d definitely enjoy reading up on that

 

[Mossy1985]

Dig it!

 

[johnjuanb1]

I’m on both sust and test enan. I never use an AI. I have no estrogen sides at all. But I’ve been on gear for 25 years so my body is used to it. When I was young I had gyno and backne.

 

[NeuroRN]

That interesting. I’m on 400 of test p a week and so far no Estro sides to speak of as long as I’m using proviron or mast. I’m definitely going to have to check this out more.

 

[BigSwole69]

Sust is one of my favorite honestly! I don’t mind the frequency of pins. I just feel better on sauce.

 

[NeuroRN]

How often do you pin? @BigSwole69

 

[BigSwole69]

I did as Op told me honestly from my cycle before this detox. It was EOD with sauce and ent.

 

[NeuroRN]

You pinned the ent eod as well? Did you require as much of an AI? Was there any noticeable physique or mentality/wellbeing changes?

 

[BigSwole69]

I did. I wouldn’t say feeling wise no but gym and motivation where better to get shot done. As far as the ai just .5mg of arimidex twice a week some weeks I did forget though lol and nothing came up.

 

[NeuroRN]

Very nice. That’s for the info sir! I’m more interested in this for trt purpose. If you can keep levels higher with the combo without an AI it would certainly be worth it.

 

[BigSwole69]

Oh for sure that’s why I’m trying the kisspeptin with low dose cyp then pull bloods to see the levels. Anyway to get a edge. Lol

 

[NeuroRN]

For sure. If I could keep my levels at 900 with no ai id sacrifice everything but my wife to the test gods

 

[JLee]

That’s an interesting program in that article. Do you know where I could download it from?

 

[NeuroRN]

There’s a link in the article but I couldn’t get it to work last night.

 

[JLee]

The graph didn’t work for me as well. I did find it but it’s not an app. I can’t post a link but I found it by typing steroid plotter

 

[NeuroRN]

I’ll check it out. Thanks buddy.

 

[Outlawthing]

So no one has had the sustanon creep up on you and then blam jack your shit up to where you wanna hump or fight everything you see good sust